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 The TFP Podcast 

 Stop: 'Going to meetings' 

Can’t live with meetings and can’t live without them. What should you do? 


Stop: ‘going to meetings’, the conversational-style podcast series that aims to help you bring about lasting, positive change for every meeting you’re involved with. Listen if you want to:

  • Sharpen your perspective on meetings

  • See meetings through a new lens

  • Understand your own responsibility and impact in each conversation

  • Work smarter and encourage others to do the same.

So many of us are frustrated with the quality and quantity of meeting conversations these days, which means meetings inevitably ‘get the blame’. This is reinforced by any number of surveys reporting meetings that are too boring, they’re not productive or too many meetings spent planning other meetings. The accusations are a credible protest about time wasting, clogged-up diaries and little time to do the actual work.

Hosted by Helen Chapman and Amy Webb, this pair are the perfect duo to blend experience and provocation with fresh-eyed curiosity on a subject they both share a passion for: getting the best from people and their meeting conversations. Together, they provide insight to help you make choices about the shifts you need to make.

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Listen on


A quest for understanding


“Seek first to understand and then aim to be understood” Stephen Covey

The content or subject matter in a meeting, such as data, facts, information and insights is the equivalent of sharing ‘knowledge currency’.

In this podcast chat with Helen Chapman and Amy Webb, we observe how we often fall short of reaching the true value potential of information exchange. Even the sexiest PowerPoint deck can fall flat. The conversation covers how sharing a deck is usually a one-way process of presenter to listener. PowerPoint is a great and trusted friend, but has its place and is limited when it comes to true knowledge sharing and understanding, even if it is accompanied by a Q&A.

Cool Stuff

YouTube coming soon

Labels and Things


When did you last put a label on someone in a meeting? For instance, ‘She’s an extrovert and never stops talking’ or ‘He’s the joker who laughs-off tricky situations’.

Labels come from mostly unconscious judgement which then shows itself in behaviour. Do you cut some people short, while having plenty of time for others? Perhaps you switch off when the person who contributes most begins to speak? Or maybe you listen intently when the most senior person in the room has something to say?

This podcast explores our human tendency to judge and in their conversation, Helen and Amy explore doing something different to get the most from others in meetings.

Cool Stuff

YouTube coming soon

Working visually in meetings


Visual note-taking in meetings is nothing new. For decades, skilled people have used the language of shorthand to create a record of the things being discussed and agreed in meetings.

Today, while shorthand is still very valuable for many, there are more ways to work visually in meetings. The open conversation between Helen and Amy explores new and modern methods of taking notes and describes the compelling value in doing so.

Unstable Meetings and Wandering Minds


If you have a purposeful agenda, you’ve booked a meeting space and have the right group of attendees, you’ve probably got a good cornerstone for your meeting.

This podcast discusses the problems that can arise when things happen that are out of your control. Even in a short, one-hour meeting there are many moving parts: time, energy and understanding, to name just a few. Add to that, the unpredictable nature of the human mind and before you know it, the meeting turns out to be nothing like you planned.

This candid and open conversation expands on what to do with instability, how to adjust the reins to apply more control or undo the laces a little to allow focussed flexibility in.

Through the screen: online meetings


They’re not ‘virtual’ they actually exist. In this first episode, Helen and Amy discuss the idea that you can break through and make online meetings brilliant, engaging and valuable; even those that span geographic time zones. When you think about it, humans and their behaviour are at the heart of every meeting, online or not, and it’s human behaviour that’s struggling to keep up.

This warm and open conversation evolves to cover online meetings, working from home, the emergence of tech platforms, playing jazz and hybrid meetings.


about the hosts


Helen chapman

TFP Facilitator, Co Founder, Director & Author

Helen is an experienced facilitator, a sought after coach and successful businesswoman. She works creatively with large and small groups alike to design and facilitate powerful business conversations that nurture trust, achieve alignment and create an action by getting the best from everyone present. Her work enables leaders and teams to make robust decisions and then turn their plans into reality.

Author of The Meeting Book, Helen believes the quality of every meeting depends on the quality of the conversation and while ever-improving technology and meeting spaces can help a lot, they can’t guarantee that great conversations happen. It’s down to humans to get it right, person by person.


Amy webb

TFP Visualiser

Amy is at the beginning of her graphic facilitation journey. She’s a lover of honest communication and complex discussion, and brings her ‘fresh eyes’ curiosity to all our team meetings in a way that makes us all think deeper and better.

Amy has a background in school settings, working with children who have additional needs. This taught her to really value the importance of supportive work relationships, clear communication and effective working practices. As a visualiser, she really enjoys seeing creative ideas and thought processes come to life. Amy’s big on creating spaces where everyone can be heard and valued for what they bring to the table.

special mentions

Everyone in the TFP team

Peter Chapman - Music and sound production

Ed Francis / Beluga Digital - Digital support


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